Saturday, May 19, 2018

Adventists Are Catholic

Note: Though this is based on an actual conversation, I will elaborate a bit —improving it for clarity.)

Years ago an Adventist asked me how I could become Catholic, when that church was so incredibly wrong that an entire Protestant movement had to be miraculously birthed by God to break the bonds of the people of God under such a tyrant as the pope. The Adventist  brought up all the usual suspects…."They changed the Sabbath to Sunday" as proof.

I had already had this conversation many times with others and it always went the same way—no matter how many facts and texts you brought up, the SDA seemed to understand nothing of other Christian's perspective. They would always bring it back to the mantra, "But the fourth commandment…."

This time, I took a different approach.

"If I am to remain a Christian, I have no choice but to be a Catholic."

The Adventist didn't flinch at that statement but remained silent. I continued, "You should not be trapped into this one concern about the Catholic Church changing the Sabbath. The SDA church doesn't ask a much more obvious question. They accuse us of having changed the Sabbath but in reality according to the Protestant perspective we changed something much, much more important. We changed the very nature of God." The Adventist looked at me skeptically.

"It is true. If you look at the God of the Old Testament, He looks different than that of the New Testament. The Old Testament—the Hebrew scriptures—shows us only one entity of the Godhead. The New Covenant reveals the Trinity."

"You see," I continued, "way before they 'changed the sabbath' (we didn't— but for argument's sake I repeated their accusation) Catholics revealed the triune God of three separate persons, and all that entails— but only one God. That was a revolutionary revelation to the world by the Catholic Church. It was so controversial that this teaching caused blood to be shed. Eventually, all Christians accepted this and no one today would call themselves Christian and say they don't believe in the Trinity. If they did say it, the vast majority of historic Christianity—Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants would claim they were no longer a Christian. The Trinity doctrine is the first definition of Christianity.

Indeed today the Muslim world sees us as polytheistic heretics because they think we rejected monotheism. The early Adventists rejected the Catholic doctrine of the Trinity, repeating what all people who reject the Trinity say. They said that the Trinity is a Catholic construct that is not found in scripture. And indeed, you cannot find a clear 'thus saith the Lord' that says there is a three-person Godhead, all co-equal. The Trinity can be constructed through a Catholic reading of scripture, but the Catholic church does not go to scripture for its doctrine of the Trinity. They go straight to the teachings of the Apostles—some of which wrote down nothing. It was a doctrine that was preached, not written down at the time, nor recorded in scripture—it is part of oral tradition."

I pointed out that if Adventists believe Protestants are giving homage to the Catholic Church and refusing to believe the Bible about Sabbath, how much MORE are the Protestants—including Adventists—giving homage to the Catholic Church by believing the Trinity dogma when it is way, way less clear in scripture than the Sabbath. By accepting the Trinity doctrine, Adventists are really Catholic and they just don't know it.

I then told the Adventist that there is something else in which he is more Catholic than he realizes. If he accepts the New Testament as the Word of God, he is a Catholic. Because:

"Think about it: there are no original manuscripts of the New Testament. The Catholic Church burnt the original manuscripts out of respect. (That was protocol back then.) Today, no one has any proof of what those original gospels and letters had written in them. We don't even know for sure that they existed because the originals don't exist! We have no early complete copies of the New Testament until almost three hundred years after Christ's death. The earliest complete Biblical codices are: Vaticanus: AD 325, Sinaiticus, c. AD 350, Alexandrinus c. AD 400-440). There are small papyri fragments of earlier copies that date back to the first century, but they include so few words that they could not be used as evidence to expose any later tampering.

"There were three hundred years of copying, disseminating, translating the story of Jesus and His Apostles without the New Testament being put together in one organized Christian Bible. That is equivalent to the timeframe of a century before the establishment of the United States till today. That is a long time to have the gospels and teachings of the Apostles being circulated without being put together into the Bible.

"The Catholic Church had complete charge of the New Testament we have today—copying, translating, disseminating, and interpreting. The Catholics will vehemently deny that any part of the Word of God was changed, but they can only use insider Catholic testimony to prove this. The Catholic's evidence is of Catholic saints and bishops and teachers who will attest to the Church's vigilant guard over the scriptures. And that proof will never satisfy an Adventist because they believe that the Catholic Church had become the Whore of Babylon by the time the first complete Bible was developed and produced.

"Yet, Adventist have to trust the Catholic Church who originally taught that the New Testament was the Word of God. No Protestant would have ever heard of the New Testament nor it being the Word of God if it weren't for the Catholic Church. God placed today's Adventists in a situation where they must trust the Catholic Church—at least for the first thousand years—to have preserved God's written word."
"But God, not the Catholic Church, protected His holy Word." The SDA protested.

"Can anyone prove that?" I inquired.

"Well, there is no proof, but I know it." He argued, "The book inspires me every time I read it. I just know it in my heart because the Holy Spirit tells me."

I explained to him that Muslims think the same of the Koran, as do Eastern religions of their sacred books. There is no empirical proof that the Bible is the Word of God except for what the Catholics originally taught. "So if you believe the New Testament is God's Word, you are a Catholic and don't know it."

My SDA friend at this point became more quiet than I had ever witnessed from him. I don't think his silence indicated that he could not come up with an argument against me, I truly think he was non-plussed because he thought I had gone crazy. And I was about to make it worse.

"I have to be Catholic," I stated, "because I believe that Jesus really lived, died, was raised from the dead and was God—the actual only begotten Son of God."

"You don't have to be Catholic to believe that," he broke his silence.

"Yes, you do." I responded with emphasis, "Putting aside for the moment our previous argument that the New Testament is a Catholic book—the only way one can know the story of Christ-as-God's-Son is through the New Testament."

I knew that most Christians had never realized that outside of the gospels, there is now very little extant evidence of Christ ever having lived. There are few controversial references by people who had not witnessed Jesus—only heard about Him from His disciples. There are two documents written in AD 93 (sixty years after Jesus died) by the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus that mention a man named Jesus. But one of those writings is considered by Jewish scholars to be corrupted by Christian scribes. The other one simply mentions a man named James, the brother of “Jesus, the so-called Christ.” Josephus does not say that Jesus was the son of God, nor does he say that Jesus died for our sins and was raised from the dead.

Around AD 110, Roman politicians, Pliny and Tacitus, may have mentioned Jesus. Tacitus wrote that a man named Jesus was executed during the time of Pontius Pilate. 
But keep in mind that Jesus was a common name and hundreds of people were executed. 
And he did record that he knew there were Christians, but that they held to a dangerous superstition. So that is not proof positive. Pliny wrote that there were pig-headed, obstinate people in northern Turkey that worshipped Christ as a god.

"See that is evidence!" He cried.

"But that is only evidence that there was an historical figure named Jesus. It says very little about his life and death and says nothing about His miracles, His being God's Son and being raised from the dead."

I pointed out that all proof of Christ outside of those somewhat contemporary references comes directly from the Catholic Church. It has the shroud of Turin. It gave us the gospels and Apostles' letters. They had complete control over the information that claims Jesus did miracles, Jesus died for the sins of mankind, was raised, ascended into heaven and was the Son of God.

"If the Catholic Church's records and traditions were erased today, there would be no Bible, no shroud of Turin, no Jesus Christ, Son of God. The story of Jesus was given solely to the Catholic Church to bring to the world." I paused to let that sink in.

"But if the Catholics didn't do it, then someone else would have!" My SDA friend announced with confidence.

"Yes, God could have done it differently, but He didn't. And that does not change the facts. It remains that the Catholic Church had complete control over the story of Christ as it is given today. They had complete access and control over the translations, copies and interpretation of New Testament for almost a thousand years after the death of Christ. It was the Catholic Church who said the Bible was the Word of God and it was the Catholic Church who gave us the Trinity dogma." I reasoned as my friend became quiet once more.

"So in the end," I explained, "I am left with only one church. One church. And if Catholicism isn't God's church, then the Bible isn't God's Bible and the Trinity isn't God. If I am not Catholic, I then have no where but to go back one more step into Judaism and Christianity is nothing but a made-up story by the Catholics." I looked at my friends intently as our conversation took a few more twists and turns till I made a refrain.
"Forget the Sabbath issue," I ended with, "Adventists have bigger fish to fry first. If you think you are rejecting Catholicism by worshipping on Sabbath, you are wrong. If you accept the Trinity doctrine, if you think the New Testament tells a true story of Christ, then you are giving homage to the Catholic Church. Adventists are Catholic, they just don't know it."

My friend is still SDA, but since that discussion, he is okay with me being Catholic.

Monday, April 9, 2018

Lessons In Joy by Teresa Beem

Fixing our eyes on Jesus, 
the pioneer and perfecter of faith. 
For the joy set before Him He endured the cross, scorning its shame, 
and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. 
Hebrews 12: 2

Scripture tells us that there is a time and season for everything, Eccl. 3:1. And now is the time and season for joy!

This is the Easter Season and for the next few weeks we are not to be downhearted but look up and experience the rich mercy of God.

We just spent forty days in Lent pondering our mortality. We began by putting ashes on our foreheads to remind ourselves that we will one day cast off this mortal flesh and we will stand before our Lord for our final judgement. We fasted and prayed and confessed our sins. The Bride, God's Church, gives us this Lenten season that we may experience what it means to be mortal. We had to courageously examine our lives so that we renounce the dark grip of death Satan has on us. We had to break free from the enslavement of sin the Devil has so deceived us into loving! We were taken by the Church Triumphant through the process of dying to sin and being reconciled to our fellow man and to God.

For God teaches us that it is only through Lent we can experience the eternal bliss of eternity with God and the supernatural joy of Easter tide. 

A Wonderful and Strange Season

I know that most of us are facing real sufferings right now. How can we just turn off our worries, turn off our hard circumstances, turn off our loneliness and fear and troubles? How can we do that Lord? How can you even ask us to do something utterly impossible?

What a strange thing for God to command that His people cultivate joy this season! Because God asks of us the impossible. But He also promises that all things through Christ Jesus are possible. He has provided a way of Joy, in fact a season of Joy that He is calling us to enter in faith. 

Jesus knows what He is asking of His people, for even through the agonies of the Garden of Gethsemane when He cried out to God to let this Cross pass from Him, when He sweat blood and was beaten to the point of death by barbaric soldiers, when he was mocked and betrayed then murdered on a Cross by the very humans He created—through all that Jesus said that He felt Joy. 
For the joy set before Him He endured the cross... 
While God, at times, surprises us with joy, if you find you are without joy, you can ask God for it. The normal way to joy is to ask. And if in this season of Easter, you want the supernatural gift of peace and joy that will rise above all the sufferings and pain and heartache we experience on earth, pray for it. God desires that we ask and He will supply abundantly. 

And if you ask and do not receive it, perhaps it is because you are clinging to some selfishness or pride, some addiction or sin that you don't want to let go of, or you feel you cannot let go of. There is a reason there is forty days of Lent before the season of Joy. It is because God knows that the grace of joy cannot be received without human hearts being reconciled with others and with God. Sin holds us down. It must be released. 

And some sorrows are beyond our control. There is such suffering on earth. But despair is not inevitable. This is the season to let fear, anxiety and pain go. Give it to our gracious Lord.

Like Christ, we too can experience joy no matter how terrible our circumstances. St. Paul described this:
…in all our troubles my joy knows no bounds. 2 Cor. 7:4
In the midst of a very severe trial, their overflowing joy and their extreme poverty welled up in rich generosity. 2 Cor. 8: 2
You became imitators of us and of the Lord, for you welcomed the message in the midst of severe suffering with the joy given by the Holy Spirit. I Thess. 1: 6

Joy is not something we can experience without God's grace. Joy is not a mortal experience that we can whip up with food, alcohol, drugs or entertainment. Joy cannot be mustered up with positive thinking or by inspirational speakers. Because joy is not a feeling. It is not an experience of pleasure. Joy is beyond that. Joy is when God elevates you so far above the darkness of this earth that you can glimpse heaven.

Lent can be a struggle because we 
contemplate the end of our own earthly, physical story, so that our eternal story may be changed!  During Lent our eyes are on the horizon but we make a sudden change at Easter and our eyes turn to the sky and we look vertically making a Cross with those two seasons! 

Lent makes possible Easter's divine ending because we have been reconciled to God through Christ's Cross and for those who accept His gift, we are told to look up and see that it is a very, very happy ending. The morality of Lent bursts forth in the immortality of the Cross at Easter. 

God tells us that we are in the season of Easter… a season of supernatural joy. God asks us to allow Him to fill us with this. I pray that each one of us reaches out for this joy and be filled. 

Jesus Christ is risen to day Hallelujah!! 

Sunday, April 1, 2018

Thursday, March 22, 2018

Why the Catholic Church requires us to go to church on Sundays:

You have a child infected with a deadly necrotic disease. There are two ways to cure the disease--have it run its course, infecting hundreds of other people, causing the child (and those around your child) to to lose the function of their body and they will have to be hooked up to machines, but the worse part is that it takes many years to recover--like seventy. Life will be hell for your child and all others--but eventually the disease will be cured-- but your child will never fully get rid of the symptoms and will have to remain on life support. 

OR the child can go to the doctor's home once a week to receive a shot and not only will the child NOT get worse (and thus be much less likely to infect others), the child will slowly and eventually be cured. 

If you are the mother of such a child, would you not REQUIRE the child (because they are immature) to go to the doctor's once a week for the shot? Would you not urge your child that is a matter of life and death for not only him but everyone he might infect?

THAT is why the Catholic Church requires us to go to Church on Sunday. It is a great act of mercy. ENORMOUS mercy.

You see, we are so immature, we do not understand the horror of sin and how it makes us stupid and ugly and filthy and miserable. Sin is the cause of our suffering. Our sin affects our family and friends. We can actually, even unknowingly cause our brothers and sisters to sin! Sin leads to sin and we eventually so habituate ourselves in sin that we need a miraculous intervention of Christ to save us. But by that time, we are so wounded and deformed, so far off the path of righteousness that we spend many decades relearning how to think and behave and love and have faith. 

When we allow sin to reign in our lives, we sink so deep that it takes a lifetime of suffering and sorrows, regret and heartache to get back onto the path. 

But Christ had a better way. Baptize your children into the faith. Begin them early
confessing their sins aloud and understanding reconcilliation with Christ. Go to church with them each week so they understand that weekly mass is meeting with the Great Physician so that He can HEAL us! 

The sacraments are not there to interrupt our fun time. They are there so that we don't have to suffer for sin. There is a hard way--learning through great agonies and hardships. Then there is the way God provided for us--the sacraments--the easiest possible way to prevent us from making terrible choices and living in a tsunami of misery. Sacraments kill the sin in us through God's unfathomable mercy. 
The requirement to attend mass is not a burden. Our eyes are so weakened with entertainment and business and fatigue that we do not see that mass is WHERE we will find the joy and peace and restoration from sin we so desperately need. 

God's Church knows what she is doing. Mother Church knows that the truth will set us free... and where there is sin, there is no freedom.

Tuesday, March 20, 2018


As a "thank you" to the Catholic Church on our tenth anniversary of converting, we will be offering a book relating our conversion experience. At first, to keep costs down for our reader, we will be offering it on Kindle for free from our side. Kindle will probably ask less than a dollar for it. 

We hope you will check it out and we will soon be putting up a link here to purchase it. Blessings!

Tuesday, January 2, 2018


Andrew Michell (aka Prolife Andrew) is a devoted Adventist convert and has a great mission within the Adventist Church. Please watch, pass on and call SDA leaders to do something about this.

Wednesday, December 27, 2017

Morning Thoughts Podcasts

Catholic and Protestant Debates